What's the difference between FML/DF/NFML/NDF magazines?
The original Glock magazines were designed to stay in the gun if the magazine
release was pressed and there were bullets still in the magazine. They did this
by making the magazines without the metal lining running all the way to the base
of the magazine. These are Non-Fully Metal Lined (NFML) magazines also known as
Non-Drop Free (NDF) magazines. In current magazines the metal lining extends the
whole way down the magazine tube. These will drop out of the gun even when full
of bullets. They are called Fully Metal Lined (FML) or Drop Free (DF) magazines.
See Glockmeister for details and pictures: http://www.glockmeister.com/3genmags.shtml http://www.glockmeister.com/magtype.shtml
Many Glocksters consider the 1st generation hi-caps mags, or drop-free
non-full metal-lined mags (DF-FML), as inferior. Actually, some knowledgeable
Glocksters consider the non-drop-free non-full metal-lined (NDF-NFML) mags
better than the later DF variety.
In his 1998 Glock Annual article entitled, "How To Become a Glock-Master!,"
Chuck Karwan states that the original Glock NDF-NFML magazines were designed to
swell slightly when fully loaded -- thus preventing a fully-loaded magazine
rom exiting the pistol if it were improperly seated or the mag catch
accidentally engaged. The original G17 would drop a mag freely only after it
contained 10 rounds or less. An empty mag did not always drop free without a
little help by shaking the pistol.
Karwan goes on to state his preference for and laud this system because a
fully-loaded or nearly fully-loaded mag would stay where it belonged -- in the
pistol. Only when the mag was sufficiently empty to require a tactical reload
would the mag drop free with ease. He asks, "What could be more logical?"
According to Mr. Karwan, Americans didn't appreciate the advantage of the Glock
system because of the legacy of the 1911 pistol, where fully-loaded mags fall
from the pistol when the mag button is pressed. In spite of the practical
superiority of the Glock NDF-NFML mags, Americans (particularly police
agencies) clamored for "drop-free" mags and Gaston Glock made them happy with
the DF-FMLs. I might add that even the DF-FML mags don't always drop-free
without some help. [JT] Back To Top
How do I get the 10th round into the magazine?
This is a common problem with brand new magazines. Fill the mags up (9 or 10)
rounds and let them stay full for a week or so. If the problem still persists
there are a couple of things you can do. First check the witness holes to make
sure two of the rounds didn't get single-stacked. Then perform the "Austrian
Stomp": slap the bottom of the magazine against your palm, thigh or table.
This will settle the 9 rounds close enough together to allow you to squeeze
the 10th little guy in. Back To Top
Are there any good aftermarket magazines?
Maybe. Mags from USA Magazines and Ramline are usually junk. ProMag magazines
are a different story. Half of the people who tried them say they are junk, the
other half say they work fine. There are a few notes to be aware of:
- Use them for practice only.
- Make sure you get the fully metal lined magazines.
- Some people report problems with JHP or flat point bullets.
- Reliability can be greatly improved by adding a mag rebuild kit (new spring & follower). Back To Top
Swedish Magazine
The Swedish magazine is a standard non-fully-metal-lined (non-drop-free)
first generation high capacity G17 magazine. The only difference is the
three-crown marking of the Swedish Government. The Swedish Armed Forces
were, I believe, the second country to adopt the Glock 17 as their service
sidearm, and the first country other than Glock's homeland (Austria) to
adopt it. As you can see, the three-crown marking is at the base of the
magazine, near the floorplate. Back To Top
UpLULA Magazine Loader
The UpLULA (Universal Pistol Loader UnLoader) is the best Glock gadget I've seen in years.
This loader slides over the magazine and uses a metal tongue to press down on the top
round in the magazine. The next round simply drops into the mag with no resistance. This
not only prevents your thumbs from getting sore, it loads mags very, very fast. With only
a few minutes practice I was able to load an 18 round G17 magazine in record time, even
faster than using the HK loader. Here are a few pics of the UpLULA in action.